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  • Master Jacques
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    • Feb 2012
    • 1753

    Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
    A propos of nothing in particular the playing of the Vienna Philharmonic and Prêtre just now in Nicolai’s Merry Wives Of Windsor overture was so exquisite I couldn’t stop smiling.
    Snap! Who'd have thought that this particular conductor could take the direct line to Nicolai's lovely overture so perfectly? It was terrific!

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    • Ein Heldenleben
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      • Apr 2014
      • 6048

      Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post

      Snap! Who'd have thought that this particular conductor could take the direct line to Nicolai's lovely overture so perfectly? It was terrific!
      Also enjoying the Paterson Joseph Shakespeare snippets who is reading them very well for radio.
      He has massively raised the cultural tone …

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      • Master Jacques
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        • Feb 2012
        • 1753

        Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

        Also enjoying the Paterson Joseph Shakespeare snippets who is reading them very well for radio.
        He has massively raised the cultural tone …
        Yes, he was very good indeed - more impressive (for me) than Sinead Cusack, who's taken over for the afternoon stint. Too much of the actresses, actressy (but that's a personal opinion).

        I had the great pleasure of seeing her father giving his Chauvelin in The Elusive Pimpernel at BFI last Saturday - I'd never caught this almost forgotten 1950s Powell and Pressburger epic before. Relevant in a sense, because Cyril Cusack plays the Machiavellian villain as a sort of homage to Olivier's Richard III. Marvellously so.

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        • Ein Heldenleben
          Full Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 6048

          Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post

          Yes, he was very good indeed - more impressive (for me) than Sinead Cusack, who's taken over for the afternoon stint. Too much of the actresses, actressy (but that's a personal opinion).

          I had the great pleasure of seeing her father giving his Chauvelin in The Elusive Pimpernel at BFI last Saturday - I'd never caught this almost forgotten 1950s Powell and Pressburger epic before. Relevant in a sense, because Cyril Cusack plays the Machiavellian villain as a sort of homage to Olivier's Richard III. Marvellously so.
          He has got a beautiful voice and impeccable diction . Other actors (especially those in TV dramas) please note.
          Actresses talking about themselves …who would credit it?

          PS She did Macbeth ( Tomorrow etc ) v well. Though I couldn’t resist joining in giving it the full Olivier obvs…
          Last edited by Ein Heldenleben; 08-11-23, 17:37.

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26330

            Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post
            Snap! Who'd have thought that this particular conductor could take the direct line to Nicolai's lovely overture so perfectly? It was terrific!
            Agreed, gorgeous music-making - remembering clearly the pleasure of hearing him conduct the 2010 New Year’s Concert removed the surprise element to his affinity with this music

            Presumably the performance was taken from that concert - I just dipped into EC to hear: there was applause but no mention of the concert in the intro/outro… (To add a negative note, hearing Georgia Mann’s presentation reminded me why I never listen to this programme: quite apart from anything else, she quite evidently thought the composer’s name was - first name, surname - “Nicolai Otto”… )
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • Ein Heldenleben
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              • Apr 2014
              • 6048

              They’ve just played this in the song of the day slot. I’ve never heard Lisitsian before . What a beautiful voice with a wonderful plaintive core in the heart of it .There’s only sketchy info on him in Wiki . He didn’t sing much in the West just a solitary perf at the Met . Any other recording recommendations welcome !
              Yeletsky's Aria: I Love You - Pavel Lisitsian With The Orchestra Of The Bolshoi Theatre Conducted By Alexander Melik-Pashaev

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              • JasonPalmer
                Full Member
                • Dec 2022
                • 826

                Excellent choice of music this morning, i did breakfast, bath,housework to it, georgie mann sure can pick em.
                Annoyingly listening to and commenting on radio 3...

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                • JasonPalmer
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2022
                  • 826

                  Another superb edition this morning with the fabulous georgina mann.
                  Annoyingly listening to and commenting on radio 3...

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                  • eighthobstruction
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 6201

                    ....Very taken with a sequence of works #22/#23/#24 this morning [28.11.23] starting with an orchestral version of Franz Schubert
                    Im Abendrot D.799 with a marvellous male singer who's name I did not catch (i was driving).....

                    ....Ed: Benjamin Appl ....so good I'm sure you will have heard about it (https://www.gramophone.co.uk/review/...chubert-lieder)

                    Last edited by eighthobstruction; 28-11-23, 18:22.
                    bong ching

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                    • oddoneout
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 8558

                      Originally posted by JasonPalmer View Post
                      Another superb edition this morning with the fabulous georgina mann.
                      Georgia not Georgie or Georgina. Think "Georgia on my mind"?

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                      • cria
                        Full Member
                        • Jul 2022
                        • 58

                        Appl is wonderful - he sings a glorious Winterreise acted out in snowy Alpine conditions. The film is on iPlayer for a couple more months.

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                        • AuntDaisy
                          Host
                          • Jun 2018
                          • 1186

                          Originally posted by cria View Post
                          Appl is wonderful - he sings a glorious Winterreise acted out in snowy Alpine conditions. The film is on iPlayer for a couple more months.
                          Thanks cria, I'd missed that.
                          Schubert's song cycle Winterreise reimagined in the wintry setting of an Alpine landscape.

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                          • oddoneout
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 8558

                            Originally posted by cria View Post
                            Appl is wonderful - he sings a glorious Winterreise acted out in snowy Alpine conditions. The film is on iPlayer for a couple more months.
                            Oh I saw that - magical. Although there were some continuity gaps, possibly related to the subject of the song being performed or the timing of the filming in relation to snow melt etc which occasionally jarred a little. One of those occasions where TV justifies its existence I thought.

                            Long article here. I didn't realise James Baillieu comes from South Africa. He hadn't encountered snow or its effect on the landscape until he was in his 20s, which made Winterreise more of a challenge, in his mind.

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                            • eighthobstruction
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 6201

                              ....A wonderful voice no doubt about it....but what struck me was the orchestral setting....so often this piece is just with piano...
                              bong ching

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                              • smittims
                                Full Member
                                • Aug 2022
                                • 3233

                                The best televised Winterreise I saw was the Channel 4 one with Ian Bostridge and Julius Drake. Just enough staging, not too much.

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