BaL 4.05.24 - Ravel: Piano concerto for the left hand

[Pulcinella]

I don’t know if it has been mentioned up thread but there is a YT clip of Ravel conducting Wittgenstein, about 100 seconds long

Don't think so: can you provide a link?

[richardfinegold]

Don't think so: can you provide a link?

No, because I never learned how to make load links to the Forum. I saw the clip on Fb and found it easily in YT by typing Ravel conducts in to YT search engine

[oliver sudden]

That would be this one?

https://youtu.be/gZJIX8952E8?feature=shared

…oh gosh, I notice that the ending there also has one bar less of the march music than in the score we know and love. I must actually read the editorial notes of the new edition rather than just the version in the CD booklet.

(…whether or not that’s actually Ravel conducting )

[oliver sudden]

Well there’s this at least (they reckon it’s Désormière in the clip)

https://www.raveledition.com/concerto-pour-la-main-gauche

[Darloboy]

Last on BaL: 07/05/2005 (reviewer Martin Cotton)

Top recommendation:

Krystian Zimerman (piano), London Symphony Orchestra, Pierre Boulez (conductor) (recorded 1996)
DG 449 213-2 (CD)

Also recommended:

Samson Francois (piano), Orchestre de la Societe des Concerts du Conservatoire, Andre Cluytens (conductor) (recorded 1959)
EMI 566905-2 (CD)

And prior to that Christopher Palmer chose Katchen/Kertesz in September 1979. There was also a programme in December 1986 presented by David Murray but I'm afraid I don't know what he chose.

[Pulcinella]

And prior to that Christopher Palmer chose Katchen/Kertesz in September 1979. There was also a programme in December 1986 presented by David Murray but I'm afraid I don't know what he chose.

I hope that you don't mind having award winners listed early in the thread (when I can easily find the information) now that I'm not listing available versions in the way Alpie used to, and that you don't think I'm stepping into your territory.
I think it helps to get the discussion going.
You can usually add more info anyway, as you've kindly done here and in the corresponding Monteverdi Vespers thread.

[Darloboy]

I hope that you don't mind having award winners listed early in the thread (when I can easily find the information) now that I'm not listing available versions in the way Alpie used to, and that you don't think I'm stepping into your territory.
I think it helps to get the discussion going.
You can usually add more info anyway, as you've kindly done here and in the corresponding Monteverdi Vespers thread.

No problem, I’ve been slacking a bit lately anyway!

[Pulcinella]

Bumping in anticipation of tomorrow's edition.

[Barbirollians]

Martin Cotton’s choices have a lot going for them. The Francois is in the big Cluytens box and is very fine.

[Roger Webb]

Just watching Edgar Reitz's 'Heimat 2' episode by episode and find we shall have no. 9 'The Eternal Daughter' on Saturday night, in which there is a deft cutaway (Reitz's films are full of these) from Elizabeth Cerphal's dying father signing his will with his left hand due to a stroke, to Volker Schimmelpfennig playing the Ravel Left Hand PC. Reitz chooses his actors as much for their musical abilities as for dramatic ones....Volker is played by Armin Fuchs, who went on to be Professor of Piano at Heidelberg. Heimat 2 is full of such performances - no less than by Salome Kammer who plays a young cello student and singer - her Pierrot Lunaire was once first choice in BaL. Can't remember when, Pulcinella will know!

[Braunschlag]

Just watching Edgar Reitz's 'Heimat 2' episode by episode and find we shall have no. 9 'The Eternal Daughter' on Saturday night, in which there is a deft cutaway (Reitz's films are full of these) from Elizabeth Cerphal's dying father signing his will with his left hand due to a stroke, to Volker Schimmelpfennig playing the Ravel Left Hand PC. Reitz chooses his actors as much for their musical abilities as for dramatic ones....Volker is played by Armin Fuchs, who went on to be Professor of Piano at Heidelberg. Heimat 2 is full of such performances - no less than by Salome Kammer who plays a young cello student and singer - her Pierrot Lunaire was once first choice in BaL. Can't remember when, Pulcinella will know!

Armin Fuchs is, and has been, at Wurzburg for some time now. Heimat 2 is one of the finest musical films ever made. I’m sure you’ve seen the Ondine from Gaspard as well.

[Braunschlag]

And Siegfried Palm teaching Clarissa Brahms and Webern

[Roger Webb]

Armin Fuchs is, and has been, at Wurzburg for some time now. Heimat 2 is one of the finest musical films ever made. I’m sure you’ve seen the Ondine from Gaspard as well.

Yes, isn't that the scene at Foxholes early on New Years Eve where he sits at the piano chatting and playing the Ravel, later Evelyn enters to reveal Ansgar's tragic death. Evelyn has an amazing contralto voice - the talent on display in this masterpiece of film making is truly astonishing!

I actually put an edit to say Fuchs was now at Würzburg, but it didn't 'stick' somehow.

[Roger Webb]

And Siegfried Palm teaching Clarissa Brahms and Webern

Yes, rather early on in Heimat 2, he rather creepily tries to suggest she shouldn't spend so much time alone. She plays the Chopin Sonata later, again with Fuchs, I think.

Herman is a fairly useful pianist too, Beethoven PC 5 and Tempest Sonata.......however Herman's guitar playing is mimed* - I think Mamangakis probably played, but is not credited as such, only as composer.

Nice to meet another Heimatian!

*So too his organ playing.