BaL 23.04.22 - Zemlinsky: Lyric Symphony

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  • pastoralguy
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7676

    #31
    Originally posted by RichardB View Post
    Bo Skovhus doesn't do much for me.
    So, no Bo?!

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    • ardcarp
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 11102

      #32
      Loving that transitional harmonic language between the Viennese schools, I found this Zemlinsky BAL the best I've heard in ages. Eric was deeply knowledgeable and spoke with calm authority. Furthermore the discography of the wonderful Lyric Symphony was small enough to allow an adequate discussion.

      As an aside, I thought Fischer-Dieskau, even though a vocal hero of mine in his core repertory, wasn't quite right for the part.
      Last edited by ardcarp; 23-04-22, 22:37.

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      • Master Jacques
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        • Feb 2012
        • 1812

        #33
        Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
        Loving that transitional harmonic language between the Viennese schools, I found this Zemlinsky BAL the best I've heard in ages. Eric was deeply knowledgeable and spoke with calm authority.
        Well put: EL had the knack of praising singers for what they did, while being clear (where needed) as to their limitations. He was generous without ever being gushing, and spared us the usual meaningless verbiage of "absolutely superbs", "mind-blowings" and "stunnings". I wish R3 used him more. Given a rather splendid encore from Joanna MacGregor on Radu Lupu, this was the best Record Review for a long time, I think.

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26440

          #34
          Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
          Loving that transitional harmonic language between the Viennese schools, I found this Zemlinsky BAL the best I've heard in ages. Eric was deeply knowledgeable and spoke with calm authority. Furthermore the discography of the wonderful Lyric Symphony was small enough to allow an adequate discussion.

          Agreed. It’s sent me back to a work I explored via the Maazel & Chailly recordings, & EL’s extracts made me realise why it never fully ‘took’ with me.

          Christine Schäfer can do no wrong as far as I’m concerned, anyway
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • CallMePaul
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            • Jan 2014
            • 773

            #35
            Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post

            Christine Schäfer can do no wrong as far as I’m concerned, anyway
            Me too. Has she stopped recording? It'sbeen a while since she has released anything.

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            • LHC
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              • Jan 2011
              • 1539

              #36
              Originally posted by CallMePaul View Post
              Me too. Has she stopped recording? It'sbeen a while since she has released anything.
              I’d agree that in her prime Schafer was very good. However, I think she did start to have some vocal problems later on.

              She decided to take a sabbatical from singing in 2015 that was initially intended to last a few months, but was then extended indefinitely. She’s now a professor of singing at the Hanns Eisler music school in Berlin.
              "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
              Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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              • BBMmk2
                Late Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 20908

                #37
                I rather like the Chailly recording. Ah well, I still stick with and get the others!
                Don’t cry for me
                I go where music was born

                J S Bach 1685-1750

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                • Dermot
                  Full Member
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 114

                  #38
                  https://www.br-klassik.de/programm/r...g-3460496.html


                  NB: This programme is only available until 23 April 2024

                  BR-KLASSIK - INTERPRETATIONEN IM VERGLEICH

                  Alexander Zemlinsky: "Lyrische Symphonie", op. 18

                  Recordings with the conductors Gabriele Ferro, Bernhard Klee, Michael Gielen, James Conlon, Christoph Eschenbach and others.

                  Reviewed by Michaela Fridrich

                  Dorothy Dorow, Siegmund Nimsgern; BBC Symphony Orchestra, Gabriele Ferro
                  Warner Classics (1978)

                  Julia Varady, Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau; Berliner Philharmoniker, Lorin Maazel
                  DGG (1981)

                  Elisabeth Söderström, Dale Duesing; Radio-Symphonie-Orchester Berlin, Bernhard Klee
                  SCHWANN Musica Mundi (1981)

                  Karan Armstrong, Ivan Kusnjer; Tschechische Philharmonie, Bohumil Gregor
                  Supraphon (1987/1990)

                  Karan Armstrong, Roland Hermann; ORF Radio-Symphonieorchester Wien, Michael Gielen
                  ORFEO (1989/2021)

                  Jiøina Marková, Ivan Kusnjer; Radio-Sinfonieorchester Prag, Vladimír Válek
                  Praga (1992)

                  Alessandra Marc, Håkan Hagegård; Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra Amsterdam, Riccardo Chailly
                  DECCA (1993)

                  Deborah Voigt, Bryn Terfel; Wiener Philharmoniker, Giuseppe Sinopoli
                  Deutsche Grammophon (1995)

                  Edith Wiens, Andreas Schmidt; Orchestre de la Suisse Romande, Armin Jordan
                  Aria Music (1995)

                  Soile Isokoski, Bo Skovhus; Gürzenich Orchester Kölner Philharmoniker, James Conlon
                  EMI CLASSICS (2001)

                  Turid Karlsen, Franz Grundheber; Tschechische Philharmonie, Antony Beaumont
                  CHANDOS (2002/2003)

                  Christine Schäfer, Matthias Goerne; Orchestre de Paris, Christoph Eschenbach
                  CAPRICCIO (2005)

                  Twyla Robinson, Roman Trekel; Houston Symphony, Hans Graf
                  NAXOS (2007/2009)

                  Johanna Winkel, Michael Nagy; Polish National Radio Symphony Orchestra, Alexander Liebreich
                  Accentus Music (2017)



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                  • smittims
                    Full Member
                    • Aug 2022
                    • 3758

                    #39
                    Thanks for that post , Dermot. I have a special admiration for Dorothy Dorow's singing, so it's good to hear of another example of her very slender discography. I still treasure memories of seeing her sing Erwartung in Manchester in1968, a memorable evening.

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                    • gurnemanz
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7354

                      #40
                      Originally posted by LHC View Post

                      I’d agree that in her prime Schafer was very good. However, I think she did start to have some vocal problems later on.

                      She decided to take a sabbatical from singing in 2015 that was initially intended to last a few months, but was then extended indefinitely. She’s now a professor of singing at the Hanns Eisler music school in Berlin.
                      PS to above: I found an update here: In April of this year, she will be back on stage in Vienna, as part of the event "Friday the 13th. An Evening for Arnold Schoenberg".

                      The venue's site describes it as "an immersive theatrical experience", offering "a sensual and crazy evening for the MusikTheater an der Wien that dives deep into Schoenberg's workshop and soul."

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37318

                        #41
                        Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post

                        The venue's site describes it as "an immersive theatrical experience", offering "a sensual and crazy evening for the MusikTheater an der Wien that dives deep into Schoenberg's workshop and soul."
                        Then that would by definition have to include Die Glückliche Hand, Schoenberg's visionary expressionist, psychedelic, and possibly most overlooked work, written between 1911 and 1913, originally mooted to have intended inclusion of a clavier à lumières, similar from what one can gather to that which Scriabin had intended for his incomplete Mystery.

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