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  • Osborn
    • Jun 2024

    Barenboim: Thank you Roger...

    After Prom 18 (Choral Symphony) Daniel Barenboim addressed the audience and thanked the BBC:

    "Our gratitude to the BBC who gave us this wonderful, unique opportunity to be here and play all the Beethoven symphonies - and in every concert one, and sometimes two, works by Pierre Boulez - and have all that televised. Ladies and gentlemen, let me tell you, we travel a lot, there is no country in the world that would do that for music and for culture."

    It's on iplayer here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00wnhkl Roger W deserves some applause for a bold, successful & educational venture.
  • amateur51

    #2
    Originally posted by Osborn View Post
    After Prom 18 (Choral Symphony) Daniel Barenboim addressed the audience and thanked the BBC:

    "Our gratitude to the BBC who gave us this wonderful, unique opportunity to be here and play all the Beethoven symphonies - and in every concert one, and sometimes two, works by Pierre Boulez - and have all that televised. Ladies and gentlemen, let me tell you, we travel a lot, there is no country in the world that would do that for music and for culture."

    It's on iplayer here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00wnhkl Roger W deserves some applause for a bold, successful & educational venture.
    Bravo Daniel!

    And you're correct, Osborn - bravo Roger!

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    • BBMmk2
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      #3
      Well said Osborn!! And finally has RW done something worthwhile?
      Don’t cry for me
      I go where music was born

      J S Bach 1685-1750

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      • Boilk
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 974

        #4
        Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
        And finally has RW done something worthwhile?
        Not sure about that ... you can't really play any safer than a Beethoven symphony cycle with a big-name conductor. It's precisely because of this that they were able to put Boulez in the middle of it all and televise some of it outside the 'confines' of BBC Four!

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 20533

          #5
          Credit where it's due then.

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          • Alison
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 6430

            #6
            Fwiw I feel Roger has been a much more imaginative Proms director than Nicholas Kenyon. An uncharacteristically harsh verdict BBM !

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
              Gone fishin'
              • Sep 2011
              • 30163

              #7
              Originally posted by Alison View Post
              Fwiw I feel Roger has been a much more imaginative Proms director than Nicholas Kenyon.
              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              • Northender

                #8
                He definitely seems to be more interested in programming British works. I sometimes got the impression that NK was dead set on avoiding them.

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20533

                  #9
                  Somebody pinch me...

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 29440

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Alison View Post
                    Fwiw I feel Roger has been a much more imaginative Proms director than Nicholas Kenyon.
                    It would be quite surprising if he hadn't been. NK was a surprise choice for Controller, following Drummond, and he then followed Drummond as Director of the Proms. But his professional background was/is nothing like RW's, who from school through university and every appointment since has specialised in music.
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • cloughie
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 21978

                      #11
                      Originally posted by french frank View Post
                      It would be quite surprising if he hadn't been. NK was a surprise choice for Controller, following Drummond, and he then followed Drummond as Director of the Proms. But his professional background was/is nothing like RW's, who from school through university and every appointment since has specialised in music.
                      So are you suggesting that it's NK to blame for the rot setting into R3. RW has done little to reverse it! The Proms remain a great thing to have, but they are very much in the Curate's Egg category ot the little girl who when she was godd was very very good but when she was bad was horrid!

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                      • Flosshilde
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7988

                        #12
                        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                        So are you suggesting that it's NK to blame for the rot setting into R3. RW has done little to reverse it! The Proms remain a great thing to have, but they are very much in the Curate's Egg category ot the little girl who when she was godd was very very good but when she was bad was horrid!
                        The Proms are very good when they play what I like, but very bad when they don't.

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 29440

                          #13
                          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                          So are you suggesting that it's NK to blame for the rot setting into R3. RW has done little to reverse it!
                          I wasn't offering a comment on Radio 3 as I think that would be off-topic on this thread
                          The Proms remain a great thing to have, but they are very much in the Curate's Egg category ot the little girl who when she was godd was very very good but when she was bad was horrid!
                          Has there ever been a Proms season which was universally hailed as 'perfect'? Unlike Mr Jones's egg, a number of less than palatable Proms mouthfuls don't spoil the rest of the dish.

                          I'm no connoisseur of NK's Proms so I can't make a comparison but RW has had some imaginative ideas that have worked well.
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • Flosshilde
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7988

                            #14
                            Originally posted by french frank View Post
                            I'm no connoisseur of NK's Proms so I can't make a comparison but RW has had some imaginative ideas that have worked well.
                            Perhaps he's put all his energies & attention into the Proms, & that's why such crass ideas as the guest on 'Essential Classics' have slipped through?

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                            • cloughie
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 21978

                              #15
                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              I wasn't offering a comment on Radio 3 as I think that would be off-topic on this thread
                              Has there ever been a Proms season which was universally hailed as 'perfect'? Unlike Mr Jones's egg, a number of less than palatable Proms mouthfuls don't spoil the rest of the dish.

                              I'm no connoisseur of NK's Proms so I can't make a comparison but RW has had some imaginative ideas that have worked well.
                              Was Michael Ball NK's or RW's?

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