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  • Lat-Literal
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    • Aug 2015
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    Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
    ...and talking of Cubans named Rodriguez reminded me that Joe also did a pod on Cuban pianist Alfredo Rodriguez on 'C' first time round - Cuba Linda is the track that starts it off. Interesting to hear about the racism in Cuba before the revolution that Joe highlights in the pod.
    11 hours left to watch this BBC television programme.

    I found it informative.

    Fidel Castro - America's Nemesis - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b086v2nd

    Have got the VV podcast on now.

    ......very interesting on the development of the tres lines into piano and the commencement of the mambo.

    And that Orquesta Casino de la Playa track is very sweet for such a stark message.
    Last edited by Lat-Literal; 03-01-17, 07:49.

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    • johncorrigan
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      • Nov 2010
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      Joe has us 'Way back in the 1960s' for doubledoubleyou this week alongside Williamson and Heron and '5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion'. Who'd've known that Heron was tripping, studying for accountancy exams when he wrote 'Chinese White', or that Joe got Danny Thompson in to play on the beautiful 'First Girl I Loved'...well maybe lots of folk, or not, but his contention that there is no band of the 60s who were SO successful then that are almost forgotten now holds a fair amount of truth.

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      • Globaltruth
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        • Nov 2010
        • 4238

        Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
        Joe has us 'Way back in the 1960s' for doubledoubleyou this week alongside Williamson and Heron and '5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion'. Who'd've known that Heron was tripping, studying for accountancy exams when he wrote 'Chinese White', or that Joe got Danny Thompson in to play on the beautiful 'First Girl I Loved'...well maybe lots of folk, or not, but his contention that there is no band of the 60s who were SO successful then that are almost forgotten now holds a fair amount of truth.
        Beat me to it JC.
        Anyway what about Dantalion's Chariot or Tomorrow?? Or the Amazing Blondel? All forgotten. Hugely successful. Or maybe not.

        ( whoops gone into Trump mode. So great )

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        • johncorrigan
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          • Nov 2010
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          Originally posted by Globaltruth View Post
          Beat me to it JC.
          Anyway what about Dantalion's Chariot or Tomorrow?? Or the Amazing Blondel? All forgotten. Hugely successful. Or maybe not.

          ( whoops gone into Trump mode. So great )
          Yeah, but did Dantalion's Chariot fill more Easts and Wests than ISB, and I don't recall the Amazing Blondell being described by one Max Reinhart as, and I quote, "a potent seed of the current 'world music' movement". So there, so near, so far...so far anyway...Trump's more so grate, I think, GT.

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          • Globaltruth
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            • Lat-Literal
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              • Aug 2015
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              Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
              Joe has us 'Way back in the 1960s' for doubledoubleyou this week alongside Williamson and Heron and '5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion'. Who'd've known that Heron was tripping, studying for accountancy exams when he wrote 'Chinese White', or that Joe got Danny Thompson in to play on the beautiful 'First Girl I Loved'...well maybe lots of folk, or not, but his contention that there is no band of the 60s who were SO successful then that are almost forgotten now holds a fair amount of truth.
              It is quite difficult for me to place ISB because they predate me (1966-1968 ish) in terms of my musical understanding. I can hear the Kinks and a bit of Bob Dylan in them. The John Peel of The Perfume Garden which I do vaguely recall (there were bits and pieces I was listening to on my radio with an under five's perception) seemed, with hindsight, so different from the Peel of punk and the long indie years etc. However, I could almost find a link between ISB and Belle and Sebastian, both of whom he championed, and no doubt a few other things. I also tend to connect ISB in my mind with Stackridge (initially the 1970s) and much later The Penguin Cafe Orchestra. That, I think, would be the whimsicality.

              Did ISB get into the singles chart? Possibly not. Of more interest, would it be fair to begin to think that British psychedelia commenced in the Scottish folk scene? Sometime in the late 1980s during a process of imposing road humps on the greatest British public, a colleague and I were swapping tapes of what we thought of as the psychedelic "trip" - Silver Apples, Tomorrow, The Chocolate Watchband, Orange Bicycle etc - but that was a transatlantic game and it wasn't very precise. Simon Dupree and the Big Sound were there, for example. I was reliant on him as he had the memories, having been born in 1955. Actually, he gave me those songs and I was providing him with the Stone Roses, the Happy Mondays and the Inspiral Carpets etc, plus the less well-known. I consider that period to have been the end of some sort of cycle. The sixties of the nineties was ostensibly retro.
              Last edited by Lat-Literal; 14-01-17, 11:26.

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              • johncorrigan
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                • Nov 2010
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                Lat, I think this one might have troubled Alan Freeman's 'Pick of the Pops' one Sunday. I love it, and they still have those folky routes...and it's funny, or at least it is to me.
                The quirky tale of Big Ted the departed pig - Lifted off their 'Changing Horses' LP

                Not sure British Psychedelia only emanated from the Scottish folk scene...think it's a lot older than that, Lat. It was the witches.

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                • Lat-Literal
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                  • Aug 2015
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                  Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
                  Lat, I think this one might have troubled Alan Freeman's 'Pick of the Pops' one Sunday. I love it, and they still have those folky routes...and it's funny, or at least it is to me.
                  The quirky tale of Big Ted the departed pig - Lifted off their 'Changing Horses' LP

                  Not sure British Psychedelia only emanated from the Scottish folk scene...think it's a lot older than that, Lat. It was the witches.
                  Oh yes, very good JC but I don't remember it as I only started writing down the charts beside the petunias in 1970. That process was quite helpful in the longer run. Had I not had a weekly scribbling race with Alan Freeman's voice, my natural speed would always have been similar to that of a slow snail. I note your point about witches - Bantock etc perhaps - but I had thought they commenced in 1970 too with German band the Rattles - a very big hit with links so it appears now to Amon Duul II - followed quickly by Redbone in 1971/2.



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                  Last edited by Lat-Literal; 15-01-17, 18:12.

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                  • Globaltruth
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                    Oh yes, very good JC but I don't remember it as I only started writing down the charts beside the petunias in 1970. That process was quite helpful in the longer run. Had I not had a weekly scribbling race with Alan Freeman's voice, my natural speed would always have been similar to that of a slow snail. I note your point about witches - Bantock etc perhaps - but I had thought they commenced in 1970 too with German band the Rattles - a very big hit with links so it appears now to Amon Duul II - followed quickly by Redbone in 1971/2.



                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIKCIwy6WUk
                    Here's one for Friday
                    This is a recording of the attempt to "levitate the Pentagon" by the Fugs, from the album "Tenderness Junction". It's mostly poetic.

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                    • Lat-Literal
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                      Originally posted by Globaltruth View Post

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                      • johncorrigan
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                        Originally posted by Globaltruth View Post
                        The Clipper Carlton Showband followed by the Fugs...Xtraordinary!

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                        • Globaltruth
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          Latest episode celebrates the Xxylophone and you can tell what is on his mind....a brilliant episode.
                          Really didn't mind a refer back to QQ!

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                          • johncorrigan
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                            Originally posted by Globaltruth View Post
                            Latest episode celebrates the Xxylophone and you can tell what is on his mind....a brilliant episode.
                            Really didn't mind a refer back to QQ!
                            A great wee chain there from JB, Global...nice to hear Dr Duran getting a mention, not to mention Mr Mapfumo getting a mention too.
                            Here's that top tune from Songhai 2
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                            • Lat-Literal
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                              Originally posted by Globaltruth View Post
                              Latest episode celebrates the Xxylophone and you can tell what is on his mind....a brilliant episode.
                              Really didn't mind a refer back to QQ!
                              Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
                              A great wee chain there from JB, Global...nice to hear Dr Duran getting a mention, not to mention Mr Mapfumo getting a mention too.
                              Here's that top tune from Songhai 2
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9zV...yCr_9XFJyg1dDg
                              One of my favourite episodes. So much information in it, I listened to it twice. I love the xylophone, balafon etc. I have Kulanjan. Very much liked what I heard of Trio da Kali. And the Afro Mexico disc is one to watch later this year. A lot of other points. Yes, good to hear the reference to Lucy Duran. Didn't know Mapfumo was based in the States. The slightly political comments on Mexico were interesting and put the country in a bit of a different light. I am struck by how often Toumani Diabate crops up in these podcasts and discussions - his back catalogue including all the collaborations must now be phenomenal. Would have liked JB to have added more to his comments about music in the previous four centuries having at least one dancing foot in Africa. And I liked the jazz tracks a lot. GT - There was recently a comment from you, I think, about griottes but I can't recall it exactly and I can't find it. Is the impressive Hawa Kasse Mady (he says Hawa Diabate) officially a griotte or just the daughter of a griot (Kasse Mady Diabate)? I think I have these names right?
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