BaL 01.06.2024 - Elgar: Symphony 1

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  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
    • 10132

    #16
    Originally posted by LMcD View Post

    I had the same problem with Bruckner and quit - which gave me much more free time than I would have gained had I fallen out of love with Elgar's wonderful symphonies.
    Snap!
    And we won't hold it against you, Richard.
    We're a pretty tolerant bunch on the whole.

    I'm wondering if I dare post on the Stravaganza page that Podger's playing is not for me.

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    • smittims
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      • Aug 2022
      • 3217

      #17
      Oh, please do! In my view Rachel Podger is like so many people in the media today (David Hockney, Helen Mirren): accomplished, successful, good at what they do, but absurdly overpraised.

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      • LMcD
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        • Sep 2017
        • 7540

        #18
        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post

        Ought to win ! It’s a stupendous performance . Barbirolli ‘s live King’s Lynn performance very shortly before his death is also exceptional . I would not be without Boult and Barbirolli in the studio , the composer’s recording , Elder’s first recording , Solti , Barenboim or Menuhin.
        Will this be the first time a recording originally issued with BBC MM qualifies for consideration on BaL?
        Perhaps the winner will be a Staatskapelle, thus giving the Germans an 'Elgar double' .
        Last edited by LMcD; 16-05-24, 12:36.

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        • oliver sudden
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          • Feb 2024
          • 228

          #19
          For me the second movement of Elgar 2 is a bit like Bruckner but with music.

          (I do actually like the odd bit of Bruckner and am deliberately overstating this point but perhaps someone will get what I mean.)

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          • Sir Velo
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            • Oct 2012
            • 3173

            #20
            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

            Snap!
            And we won't hold it against you, Richard.


            :
            Indeed not. Just great sympathy.

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            • LMcD
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              • Sep 2017
              • 7540

              #21
              Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
              Indeed not. Just great sympathy.

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              • Pulcinella
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                • Feb 2014
                • 10132

                #22
                Originally posted by LMcD View Post

                Will this be the first time a recording originally issued with BBC MM qualifies for consideration on BaL?
                Perhaps the Dresden Staatskapelle will 'do the double', as I believe their recording of the 2nd Symphony is the current BaL recommendation.
                Probably.
                Their Tippett 2 and 4 conducted by the composer was subsequently released on NMC, but neither work has been a BaL subject, has it?

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                • LMcD
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                  • Sep 2017
                  • 7540

                  #23
                  Originally posted by oliver sudden View Post
                  For me the second movement of Elgar 2 is a bit like Bruckner but with music.

                  (I do actually like the odd bit of Bruckner and am deliberately overstating this point but perhaps someone will get what I mean.)
                  'BBC Radio 3 - The Home Of Odd Bits'.

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                  • oliver sudden
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                    • Feb 2024
                    • 228

                    #24
                    Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                    Will this be the first time a recording originally issued with BBC MM qualifies for consideration on BaL?
                    Perhaps the Dresden Staatskapelle will 'do the double', as I believe their recording of the 2nd Symphony is the current BaL recommendation.
                    There’s a Dresden Staatskapelle Elgar 2?

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                    • EnemyoftheStoat
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1121

                      #25
                      Originally posted by oliver sudden View Post
                      There’s a Dresden Staatskapelle Elgar 2?
                      No stranger than the idea of a Berlin Staatskapelle Elgar 2, I'd say.

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                      • Roger Webb
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                        • Feb 2024
                        • 481

                        #26
                        Originally posted by LMcD View Post

                        Will this be the first time a recording originally issued with BBC MM qualifies for consideration on BaL?
                        .
                        I'm pretty sure the BBC MM version of Belshazzar's Feast was praised highly, if not their top recommendation - Pulcinella will put me right if not.

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                        • Barbirollians
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 11348

                          #27
                          Originally posted by LMcD View Post

                          Will this be the first time a recording originally issued with BBC MM qualifies for consideration on BaL?
                          Perhaps the Dresden Staatskapelle will 'do the double', as I believe their recording of the 2nd Symphony is the current BaL recommendation.
                          That was a terrible Richard Morrison BAL . By the way the Boult live Elgar 1 was first released on a Pickwick 2 disc set concentrating on the Last Night of the Proms before it then became a BBCMM CD . I recall EG being blown away by the performance in Gramophone and bought the set.

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                          • Barbirollians
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11348

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                            It looks like the BBC MM Boult Proms performance is also available commercially on this release:

                            https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...s-brahms-elgar
                            Richard try this one - if you don't like Elgar 1 after this then by all means give up !

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                            • LMcD
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                              • Sep 2017
                              • 7540

                              #29
                              Originally posted by oliver sudden View Post
                              There’s a Dresden Staatskapelle Elgar 2?
                              #18 corrected!
                              I've just listened to Jeremy Summerly's summing up for Belshazzar's Feast and I don't think the BBC MM recording is mentioned.
                              When the work under review was Mozart's K361, a number of Forumites expressed their admiration for the BBC MM recording, some adding that they were content with that one alone, but I don't think it was taken into consideration.
                              Last edited by LMcD; 16-05-24, 12:53.

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                              • oliver sudden
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                                • Feb 2024
                                • 228

                                #30
                                Originally posted by LMcD View Post

                                #18 corrected!
                                Ach so. Schade!

                                Speaking of Germans, there was a live BRSO/C Davis Elgar 2 in circulation, it has popped up on YouTube from time to time. Would love to see a proper issue of that.

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