BaL 22.01.11 - Strauss: Eine Alpensinfonie

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    Very well indeed, thank you. There was awe and wonder around the room, and members of the audience wanted to know whether the rest of the work was as good as the excerpt they'd heard - and they wondered why they'd never heard it before.

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      From time to time, I receive PMs, asking me to recommend "the best" version. Clearly, I'd feel bad about people spending their own money on my recommendation, and ending up disappointed. For this reason, I reply with a shortlist. I've now extended this to include every recording, placing them into four tiers.

      I've put the DG Karajan into the second tier, even though I'm in a minority of one here, but HvK's DVD version is up there in the top tier. But it's only a personal selection. (You may well love the Andrew Davis and Hans Welser-Most performances.)

      TOP TIER
      Chicago Symphony Orchestra; Daniel Barenboim
      Concertgebouw Orchestra, Amsterdam; Bernard Haitink
      Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra; Andreas Delfs
      Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra; Herbert von Karajan (DVD)
      Royal Philharmonic Orchestra; Rudolf Kempe
      Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra; Hans Knappertsbush
      Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra; Seiji Ozawa
      Sao Paulo Symphony Orchestra; Frank Shipway
      Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart; Carl Schuricht
      Bamberg Symphony Orchestra; Horst Stein
      Ensemble Modern Orchestra; Markus Stenz
      Orchester des Reichssenders München; Richard Strauss
      Staatskapelle Dresden; Christian Thielemann (DVD/Blu Ray)
      Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra; Christian Thielemann
      Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra; Christian Thielemann (DVD/Blu Ray)
      Tonhalle Orchestra; David Zinman (CD & DVD pictorial versions)


      SECOND TIER
      Baltimore Symphony Orchestra; Marin Alsop
      Czech Philharmonic Orchestra; Vladimir Ashkenazy
      San Francisco Symphony Orchestra; Herbert Blomstedt
      American Symphony Orchestra, Leon Botstei
      WDR Sinfonieorchester Köln; Semyon Bychkov
      Philadelphia Orchestra; Charles Dutoit
      Philharmonisches Orchester des Theaters Altenburg – Gera; Gabriel Feltz
      Netherlands Philharmonic Orchestra; Hartmut Haenchen
      London Symphony Orchestra; Bernard Haitink
      Saito Kinen Orchestra, Daniel Harding
      Tokyo Metropolitan Symphony Orchestra; Jakun Hrusa
      L’Orchestra de la Suisse Romande: Eliahu Inbal
      Orchestra Philharmonique de Radio France; Marek Janowski
      Residentie Orchestra Den Hague; Neeme Järvi (DVD)
      Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra; Herbert von Karajan (CD)
      Staatskapelle Dresden; Rudolf Kempe
      Warsaw Philharmonic Orchestra; Kazimierz Kord
      Czech Philharmonic Orchestra; Zdenek Košler
      Orchestre der Tiroler Festpiele Erl, Gustav Kuhn
      Staatskapelle Dresden; Fabio Luisi
      BBC Symphony Orchestra; Norman Del Mar
      Orchestre National de France; Kurt Masur
      Leningrad Philharmonic Orchestra; Yevgeny Mravinsky
      Deutsches Symphonieorchester Berlin; Kent Nagano (DVD)
      Goteborgs Symfonica; Kent Nagano
      City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra; Andris Nelsons
      Kanagawa University Symphonic Band, Toshiro Ozawa
      Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra; André Previn
      Philadelphia Orchestra; André Previn
      Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks; Lorin Maazel
      Czech National Symphony Orchestra; Marcello Rota
      Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra; Gerard Schwarz
      Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra; Georg Solti
      Bayerisches Staatskapelle; Richard Strauss
      Sofia Philharmonic Orchestra; Emil Tabakov
      NKH Symphony Orchestra; Yuzo Toyama
      Minnesota Orchestra; Edo de Waart
      Royal Flemish Philharmonic Orchestra; Edo de Waart
      Staatskapelle Weimer; Antoni Wit


      THIRD TIER
      Staatsorchester Braunschweig; Jonas Alber
      NDR Symphony Orchestra; Takashi Asahina
      Cleveland Orchestra; Vladimir Ashkenazy
      Orchestre Philharmonique de Liege; Pierre Bartholomée
      RIAS Symphonieorchester; Karl Böhm
      Staatskapelle Dresden; Karl Böhm
      Philharmonisches Orchester der Hansestadt Lübeck, Roman Brogli-Sacher
      Dresdner Philharmonic; Rafael Frühbeck de Burgos
      London Symphony Orchestra, Rafael Frühbeck de Burgos
      Vienna Symphony Orchestra; Rafael Frühbeck de Burgos
      Gôteborgs Symphoniker; Friedrich Haider
      Pittsburg Symphony; Marek Janowski
      BBC Welsh Symphony Orchestra; Mariss Jansons
      Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Mariss Jansons
      Scottish National Orchestra; Neeme Järvi
      Orchestre de l’Opéra National de Paris; Philippe Jordan
      European Community Youth Orchestra; James Judd
      National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain; Andrew Litton
      Philharmonic Symphony Orchestra; Dimitri Mitropoulos
      Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra; Dimitri Mitropoulos
      Budapest Philharmonic Orchestra; Saccani
      Staatskapelle Dresden; Guiseppi Sinopoli (CD)
      Staatskapelle Dresden; Guiseppi Sinopoli (DVD)
      USSR SO, Evgeni Svetlanov

      FOURTH (BOTTOM) TIER
      London Philharmonic Orchestra; Andrew Davis
      Berlin State Opera Orchestra; Oskar Fried
      Orchestra Dell’Opera di Stato Bavarese; Konwitschny
      Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra; Zubin Mehta
      Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra; Zubin Mehta
      Gustav Mahler Jugendorchester; Franz Welser-Möst
      Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks; Franz Welser-Möst

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        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        Very well indeed, thank you. There was awe and wonder around the room, and members of the audience wanted to know whether the rest of the work was as good as the excerpt they'd heard - and they wondered why they'd never heard it before.
        - I'd encountered the work in a broadcast (on a Mono transistor radio ) in my teens and had casually dismissed it as a noisy, second-rate work. I didn't hear it again until Richard Osborne introduced the Karajan recording on a Record Review in 1980/81 - using the same excerpt as you chose: I was instantly hooked, overwhelmed with the power and beauty of what I heard, and it's been a favourite piece ever since. I've never heard it Live, so I'm looking forward to OrchOpNorth's performance in Leeds Town Hall next year. (I so wish that they still called themselves the "Northern Philharmonia" - "OON" and "OrchOpNorth" don't sound very elegant! The latter looks like "Orch Oop North"!)

        Interesting to see Barenboim amongst the summit reachers; I haven't heard that version.
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          Can't believe my first encounter with Alpine Symphony was in Blackpool - Ripley's Odditorium if memory serves. There was some sort of biblical scene with puppets, and the summit section played on a loop ! Even at that age, I had to know what this music was...

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            A great listing, Alpie - that's the way to do a BaL!!!

            I'm just about to read it 'in depth' and see if I can stretch the purse strings - again....

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              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post

              Interesting to see Barenboim amongst the summit reachers; I haven't heard that version.
              It sounds the way I imagine Furtwangler would have conducted the work.

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                I am pleased that the Orchestre der Tiroler Festpiele Erl, Gustav Kuhn recording made it into your second tier, Alpie. Now to explore the top tier. Where did I put my crampons?
                Last edited by Hitch; 26-07-16, 13:12. Reason: Idiocy

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                  Hiya Eine Alpensinfonie,

                  This is a much maligned work that I enjoy hearing when the opportunity arises.

                  In 2014 I was privileged to report from two performances. In Manchester Juanjo Mena conducted the joint forces of the BBC Philharmonic and Hallé and a few months later in Dresden Maestro Thielemann conducting (without a score) the world class Staatskapelle Dresden.

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                    Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                    Hiya Eine Alpensinfonie,

                    This is a much maligned work that I enjoy hearing when the opportunity arises.
                    It certainly used to be maligned, and few conductors would touch it until the 1970s. That all seems to have changed.

                    In 2014 I was privileged to report from two performances. In Manchester Juanjo Mena conducted the joint forces of the BBC Philharmonic and Hallé and a few months later in Dresden Maestro Thielemann conducting (without a score) the world class Staatskapelle Dresden.
                    I was at the Manchester concert. It was simply stunning to hear it played by such a vast orchestra, but it was strange that there was apparently no wind machine.

                    As for Thielemann, that must have been quite something.

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                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post

                      As for Thielemann, that must have been quite something.
                      There's a double-page interview with Thielemann by Anna Picard in today's Times - paywall, you'll have to buy it

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                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        It certainly used to be maligned, and few conductors would touch it until the 1970s. That all seems to have changed.



                        I was at the Manchester concert. It was simply stunning to hear it played by such a vast orchestra, but it was strange that there was apparently no wind machine.

                        As for Thielemann, that must have been quite something.

                        Hiya Eine Alpensinfonie,

                        I'd forgotten a third concert that I attended in 2015 by Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra/Vasily Petrenko at Preston Guild Hall. So that was three in a season not bad going eh! Should change my moniker to 'Stanford's Alpensinfonie'.

                        When I said much maligned I has thinking more of how unfrequently it is generally programmed. How many performances would the 'Alpine' have had without the concerts generated by Strauss’s 150th anniversary in the 2014/15 season?

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                          Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post

                          When I said much maligned I has thinking more of how unfrequently it is generally programmed. How many performances would the 'Alpine' have had without the concerts generated by Strauss’s 150th anniversary in the 2014/15 season?
                          True, but I suspect that's largely due to the cost of hiring all those extra players.

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                            I would love this work to be c/w RVW's Sinfonia Antartica!
                            Don’t cry for me
                            I go where music was born

                            J S Bach 1685-1750

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                              I see a good but not great review for the new Nagano in Gramophone this week .

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                                Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                                I see a good but not great review for the new Nagano in Gramophone this week .
                                It's preferable to Nagano's DVD version in that the orchestra isn't turned upside down during the thunderstorm. (I kid you not)

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