BaL 22.01.11 - Strauss: Eine Alpensinfonie

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    I had a Claude Rains moment today: I was "shocked" to discover that I apparently only have 1 recording of this piece-- the venerable Kemp/Dresden. I know I had a DVD Audio of Ozawa but it appears to have gone missing-no great loss--so someone--especially EA--recommend a few alternatives. I am to lazy to plow through this 36 page thread

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      Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
      -so someone--especially EA--recommend a few alternatives.
      See previous page #347

      Reading about the Ausklang section overleaf reminded me of a time a few years ago on a ski holiday when a friend was trying to get me to appreciate Adele's "21" CD, which I found tedious. In return, inspired by the scenery, I played him Ausklang. He listened for a minute or so then threw off the headphones muttering "boring."

      Each to their own...

      p.s. 'Uddersfield or Leeds, ferney?
      Last edited by Flay; 07-03-17, 08:35.
      Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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        Originally posted by Flay View Post
        p.s. 'Uddersfield or Leeds, ferney?
        Leeds. (If there are tickets still available, I might just pop over to 'Udds the next day, too - but my ticket's for the Home Match.)
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          (If there are tickets still available, I might just pop over to 'Udds the next day...
          You will be very alone. Huddersfield is on Thursday 30th!
          Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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            Originally posted by Flay View Post
            You will be very alone. Huddersfield is on Thursday 30th!
            Oh, yes!!! I'm rather glad you mentioned this ... I had convinced myself that Leeds was Friday, and Hudds Saturday.

            So ... just Leeds, then.

            Should be extraordinary - that orchestra; and Markovic's Rosenkavalier showed he has a real feeling for Strauss. And Tapiola, too!

            Pity about the Bruch.
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              As posted earlier (though I have three further versions to include at some stage:


              TOP TIER
              Chicago Symphony Orchestra; Daniel Barenboim
              Concertgebouw Orchestra, Amsterdam; Bernard Haitink
              Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra; Andreas Delfs
              Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra; Herbert von Karajan (DVD)
              Royal Philharmonic Orchestra; Rudolf Kempe
              Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra; Hans Knappertsbush
              Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra; Seiji Ozawa
              Sao Paulo Symphony Orchestra; Frank Shipway
              Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart; Carl Schuricht
              Bamberg Symphony Orchestra; Horst Stein
              Ensemble Modern Orchestra; Markus Stenz
              Orchester des Reichssenders München; Richard Strauss
              Staatskapelle Dresden; Christian Thielemann (DVD/Blu Ray)
              Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra; Christian Thielemann
              Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra; Christian Thielemann (DVD/Blu Ray)
              Tonhalle Orchestra; David Zinman (CD & DVD pictorial versions)


              SECOND TIER
              Baltimore Symphony Orchestra; Marin Alsop
              Czech Philharmonic Orchestra; Vladimir Ashkenazy
              San Francisco Symphony Orchestra; Herbert Blomstedt
              American Symphony Orchestra, Leon Botstei
              WDR Sinfonieorchester Köln; Semyon Bychkov
              Philadelphia Orchestra; Charles Dutoit
              Philharmonisches Orchester des Theaters Altenburg – Gera; Gabriel Feltz
              Netherlands Philharmonic Orchestra; Hartmut Haenchen
              London Symphony Orchestra; Bernard Haitink
              Saito Kinen Orchestra, Daniel Harding
              Tokyo Metropolitan Symphony Orchestra; Jakun Hrusa
              L’Orchestra de la Suisse Romande: Eliahu Inbal
              Orchestra Philharmonique de Radio France; Marek Janowski
              Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra; Herbert von Karajan (CD)
              Staatskapelle Dresden; Rudolf Kempe
              Warsaw Philharmonic Orchestra; Kazimierz Kord
              Czech Philharmonic Orchestra; Zdenek Košler
              Orchestre der Tiroler Festpiele Erl, Gustav Kuhn
              Staatskapelle Dresden; Fabio Luisi
              BBC Symphony Orchestra; Norman Del Mar
              Orchestre National de France; Kurt Masur
              Leningrad Philharmonic Orchestra; Yevgeny Mravinsky
              Deutsches Symphonieorchester Berlin; Kent Nagano (DVD)
              Goteborgs Symfonica; Kent Nagano
              City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra; Andris Nelsons
              Kanagawa University Symphonic Band, Toshiro Ozawa
              Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra; André Previn
              Philadelphia Orchestra; André Previn
              Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks; Lorin Maazel
              Czech National Symphony Orchestra; Marcello Rota
              Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra; Gerard Schwarz
              Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra; Georg Solti
              Bayerisches Staatskapelle; Richard Strauss
              Sofia Philharmonic Orchestra; Emil Tabakov
              NKH Symphony Orchestra; Yuzo Toyama
              Minnesota Orchestra; Edo de Waart
              Royal Flemish Philharmonic Orchestra; Edo de Waart
              Staatskapelle Weimer; Antoni Wit


              THIRD TIER
              Staatsorchester Braunschweig; Jonas Alber
              NDR Symphony Orchestra; Takashi Asahina
              Cleveland Orchestra; Vladimir Ashkenazy
              Orchestre Philharmonique de Liege; Pierre Bartholomée
              RIAS Symphonieorchester; Karl Böhm
              Staatskapelle Dresden; Karl Böhm
              Philharmonisches Orchester der Hansestadt Lübeck, Roman Brogli-Sacher
              Dresdner Philharmonic; Rafael Frühbeck de Burgos
              London Symphony Orchestra, Rafael Frühbeck de Burgos
              Vienna Symphony Orchestra; Rafael Frühbeck de Burgos
              Gôteborgs Symphoniker; Friedrich Haider
              Pittsburg Symphony; Marek Janowski
              BBC Welsh Symphony Orchestra; Mariss Jansons
              Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Mariss Jansons
              Residentie Orchestra Den Hague; Neeme Järvi (DVD)
              Scottish National Orchestra; Neeme Järvi
              Orchestre de l’Opéra National de Paris; Philippe Jordan
              European Community Youth Orchestra; James Judd
              National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain; Andrew Litton
              Philharmonic Symphony Orchestra; Dimitri Mitropoulos
              Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra; Dimitri Mitropoulos
              Budapest Philharmonic Orchestra; Saccani
              Staatskapelle Dresden; Guiseppi Sinopoli (CD)
              Staatskapelle Dresden; Guiseppi Sinopoli (DVD)
              USSR SO, Evgeni Svetlanov

              FOURTH (BOTTOM) TIER
              London Philharmonic Orchestra; Andrew Davis
              Berlin State Opera Orchestra; Oskar Fried
              Orchestra Dell’Opera di Stato Bavarese; Konwitschny
              Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra; Zubin Mehta
              Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra; Zubin Mehta
              Gustav Mahler Jugendorchester; Franz Welser-Möst
              Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks; Franz Welser-Möst
              Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 16-02-20, 23:19.

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                Originally posted by Flay View Post
                I found tedious. In return, inspired by the scenery, I played him Ausklang. He listened for a minute or so then threw off the headphones muttering "boring."
                If it were the Andrew Davis version of the Ausklang, it might have been justified. A pity, because he's such a fine conductor.

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                  Originally posted by Flay View Post
                  You will be very alone. Huddersfield is on Thursday 30th!
                  I hope to be there, too! Not been to an OON gig at the Town Hall in a while.

                  And - serendipitously! - an email from Kirklees council has just appeared in my inbox. It's an omen, I tells yer!

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                    Just been reading EA's rankings. He places Mehta/LAPO in the bottom league - this was the first version I ever heard and I found it underwhelming at the time. I've seen discerned some virtues in it, though.

                    Hatiink, by contrast, is highly rated and I also have his version. He is the only conductor I've heard conduct this work in the concert-hall.

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                      Originally posted by Flay View Post
                      See previous page #347

                      Reading about the Ausklang section overleaf reminded me of a time a few years ago on a ski holiday when a friend was trying to get me to appreciate Adele's "21" CD, which I found tedious. In return, inspired by the scenery, I played him Ausklang. He listened for a minute or so then threw off the headphones muttering "boring."

                      Each to their own...

                      p.s. 'Uddersfield or Leeds, ferney?
                      Adele is appalling and her Glastonbury performance of last year was an utter disgrace.

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                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        Oh, yes!!! I'm rather glad you mentioned this ... I had convinced myself that Leeds was Friday, and Hudds Saturday.
                        Leeds is on the Saturday!

                        Do keep up ferney
                        Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                          Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                          I had a Claude Rains moment today: I was "shocked" to discover that I apparently only have 1 recording of this piece--
                          You're not alone. This thread's length is in inverse proportion to its subject's intrinsic musical worth!

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                            Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                            Just been reading EA's rankings. He places Mehta/LAPO in the bottom league - this was the first version I ever heard and I found it underwhelming at the time. I've seen discerned some virtues in it, though.
                            I admit, I found it very dull. However, there are people who rate it as the best of all.

                            For example:
                            Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 07-03-17, 18:28.

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                              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                              As posted earlier (though I have three further versions to include at some stage:


                              TOP TIER
                              Chicago Symphony Orchestra; Daniel Barenboim
                              Concertgebouw Orchestra, Amsterdam; Bernard Haitink
                              Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra; Andreas Delfs
                              Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra; Herbert von Karajan (DVD)
                              Royal Philharmonic Orchestra; Rudolf Kempe
                              Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra; Hans Knappertsbush
                              Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra; Seiji Ozawa
                              Sao Paulo Symphony Orchestra; Frank Shipway
                              Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart; Carl Schuricht
                              Bamberg Symphony Orchestra; Horst Stein
                              Ensemble Modern Orchestra; Markus Stenz
                              Orchester des Reichssenders München; Richard Strauss
                              Staatskapelle Dresden; Christian Thielemann (DVD/Blu Ray)
                              Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra; Christian Thielemann
                              Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra; Christian Thielemann (DVD/Blu Ray)
                              Tonhalle Orchestra; David Zinman (CD & DVD pictorial versions)


                              SECOND TIER
                              Baltimore Symphony Orchestra; Marin Alsop
                              Czech Philharmonic Orchestra; Vladimir Ashkenazy
                              San Francisco Symphony Orchestra; Herbert Blomstedt
                              Aqmerican Symphony Orchestra, Leon Botstei
                              WDR Sinfonieorchester Köln; Semyon Bychkov
                              Philadelphia Orchestra; Charles Dutoit
                              Philharmonisches Orchester des Theaters Altenburg – Gera; Gabriel Feltz
                              Netherlands Philharmonic Orchestra; Hartmut Haenchen
                              London Symphony Orchestra; Bernard Haitink
                              Saito Kinen Orchestra, Daniel Harding
                              Tokyo Metropolitan Symphony Orchestra; Jakun Hrusa
                              L’Orchestra de la Suisse Romande: Eliahu Inbal
                              Orchestra Philharmonique de Radio France; Marek Janowski
                              Residentie Orchestra Den Hague; Neeme Järvi (DVD)
                              Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra; Herbert von Karajan (CD)
                              Staatskapelle Dresden; Rudolf Kempe
                              Warsaw Philharmonic Orchestra; Kazimierz Kord
                              Czech Philharmonic Orchestra; Zdenek Košler
                              Orchestre der Tiroler Festpiele Erl, Gustav Kuhn
                              Staatskapelle Dresden; Fabio Luisi
                              BBC Symphony Orchestra; Norman Del Mar
                              Orchestre National de France; Kurt Masur
                              Leningrad Philharmonic Orchestra; Yevgeny Mravinsky
                              Deutsches Symphonieorchester Berlin; Kent Nagano (DVD)
                              Goteborgs Symfonica; Kent Nagano
                              City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra; Andris Nelsons
                              Kanagawa University Symphonic Band, Toshiro Ozawa
                              Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra; André Previn
                              Philadelphia Orchestra; André Previn
                              Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks; Lorin Maazel
                              Czech National Symphony Orchestra; Marcello Rota
                              Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra; Gerard Schwarz
                              Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra; Georg Solti
                              Bayerisches Staatskapelle; Richard Strauss
                              Sofia Philharmonic Orchestra; Emil Tabakov
                              NKH Symphony Orchestra; Yuzo Toyama
                              Minnesota Orchestra; Edo de Waart
                              Royal Flemish Philharmonic Orchestra; Edo de Waart
                              Staatskapelle Weimer; Antoni Wit


                              THIRD TIER
                              Staatsorchester Braunschweig; Jonas Alber
                              NDR Symphony Orchestra; Takashi Asahina
                              Cleveland Orchestra; Vladimir Ashkenazy
                              Orchestre Philharmonique de Liege; Pierre Bartholomée
                              RIAS Symphonieorchester; Karl Böhm
                              Staatskapelle Dresden; Karl Böhm
                              Philharmonisches Orchester der Hansestadt Lübeck, Roman Brogli-Sacher
                              Dresdner Philharmonic; Rafael Frühbeck de Burgos
                              London Symphony Orchestra, Rafael Frühbeck de Burgos
                              Vienna Symphony Orchestra; Rafael Frühbeck de Burgos
                              Gôteborgs Symphoniker; Friedrich Haider
                              Pittsburg Symphony; Marek Janowski
                              BBC Welsh Symphony Orchestra; Mariss Jansons
                              Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Mariss Jansons
                              Scottish National Orchestra; Neeme Järvi

                              Orchestre de l’Opéra National de Paris; Philippe Jordan
                              European Community Youth Orchestra; James Judd
                              National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain; Andrew Litton
                              Philharmonic Symphony Orchestra; Dimitri Mitropoulos
                              Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra; Dimitri Mitropoulos
                              Budapest Philharmonic Orchestra; Saccani
                              Staatskapelle Dresden; Guiseppi Sinopoli (CD)
                              Staatskapelle Dresden; Guiseppi Sinopoli (DVD)
                              USSR SO, Evgeni Svetlanov

                              FOURTH (BOTTOM) TIER
                              London Philharmonic Orchestra; Andrew Davis
                              Berlin State Opera Orchestra; Oskar Fried
                              Orchestra Dell’Opera di Stato Bavarese; Konwitschny
                              Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra; Zubin Mehta
                              Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra; Zubin Mehta
                              Gustav Mahler Jugendorchester; Franz Welser-Möst
                              Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks; Franz Welser-Möst
                              Oh no, I have no tier 1 versions! The only one I want (and once had on tape) is underlined above; those on my shelf are in bold...

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                                Originally posted by EnemyoftheStoat View Post
                                Oh no, I have no tier 1 versions! The only one I want (and once had on tape) is underlined above; those on my shelf are in bold...
                                Don't worry. It's only one fanatic's opinion.

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